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Post by desertbikes on Nov 26, 2018 20:03:01 GMT -7
1. If you don/t know how to fix a flat tire, you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike. 2. If you wrote a bad bike review at walmart.com because of that flat tire, you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike. 3. If you assembled your bike yourself & the left pedal keeps falling off, you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike. 4. If you “adjusted” any derailleur by turning a screw until it stopped (or fell out), you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike. 5. If you just said to yourself, “What’s a derailleur?”, you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike. 6. If your bike chain keeps falling off & you don’t how to fix it, you’re not ready for a budget mountain bike.
Yeah, I could go on but there’s really no point. I’d bet that 90% of negative bike reviews at Walmart involve one or more of these issues. These problems are almost always the fault of the assembler, not the bike manufacturer.
This time of year some Walmart locations do hire bike shops to assemble bikes. Not all do. While a customer should be able to have the same expectation from a new bicycle as any other new product purchase, the sad truth is, that’s simply not a realistic expectation.
If you have no bicycle experience, your options are limited. Usually, (not always) if you take your new Walmart bike, or used budget bike, to your local bike shop, you’ll likely endure backhanded insults about your purchase decision. Frequently, shop mechanics are just flat rude about it.
Alternatively, most of what you need to know to properly adjust your bike can be found on this forum & elsewhere. If you’re mechanically inclined, I’d suggest you never buy a bike already assembled & on the store floor. Besides the issues caused by a stoned assembler, who knows what someone else may have done to it.
If you’re willing to face the truth in these matters, and you qualify for #1 thru #6, take your credit card to the nearest bike shop & don’t look back. Although, I’ll miss your comically stupid Walmart review.
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Post by lurker on Nov 27, 2018 10:56:07 GMT -7
burn, burn, burn! harsh, but true. i've seen bikes there with the fork on backwards. but then, i've never really mastered the art of derailleur adjustment, i just fiddle with the screws until they fall out (put them back in and try again), or i get lucky and it works. i'm sure there are people who can glance at a drlr (got tired of typing it) and just know to turn this screw that way about so many times. i'm not one of those people.
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Post by desertbikes on Nov 27, 2018 13:13:52 GMT -7
Gosh, if only there were a post somewhere that explains how to adjust the derailleur. Oh wait! There is! budgetbicycleboards.freeforums.net/thread/6/adjust-derailleur-limit-screws-indexingYeah it's harsh. I had a more politically correct version that was shitcanned after reading around 30 Walmart bike reviews last night. The backward fork was a running bit at the other forum but, honestly, it's not funny anymore. Two bikes I recently assembled had a sticker on the fork that said, "FRONT". If an assembler can't correctly install that large & basic part, what hope is there that brakes or drivetrain will be adjusted correctly. People, customers, should be pissed off & made aware of the possible issues. Having said that, it doesn't completely dismiss the responsibility a bike owner has to keep his (or his kids') ride safely maintained. That same basic knowledge is also required to check or assemble a department store bicycle. It's easy to find, especially in today's webworld. And if after watching a video or reading a procedure someone is still unsure how to fix something, they can always ask. Bottom line - due diligence is ALWAYS the responsibility of the consumer. If one ignores this basic rule, a sympathetic ear will not be found here.
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Post by lurker on Nov 27, 2018 13:27:17 GMT -7
:lol:
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Post by fatdaddy61 on Nov 27, 2018 19:44:40 GMT -7
what do u really think Desert? It is w3ird how many people say they got a flat right away.
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Post by desertbikes on Nov 28, 2018 7:31:12 GMT -7
what do u really think Desert? It is w3ird how many people say they got a flat right away. Here's my take on that. Boxed bikes arrive with the tires inflated, or at least partially inflated. It's doubtful the 10 yr old Chinese laborer on the tire line takes the time to properly seat the tire on the rim, while using a high pressure compressor to inflate the tube. The tire should be properly seated with the tube partially inflated, otherwise the tube may be pinched between the tire & rim. The tube may also be folded over or creased within the tire. This can happen & the tire appears inflated. Now add 150 -300 lbs of payload & ride a short distance. A pinch-flat happens - and now the whole bike is a POS. The other thing the kid in china may overlook is the protective rim strip. This keeps the spoke nuts from hitting the tube. If it's misaligned, once fully inflated it's easy for a sharp edge to puncture a tube.
Fast forward a long boat ride to the US. American men don't read manuals, unless it happens to be in the bathroom. If they did, they'd find out that using a compressor is not recommended by bike manufacturers. A typical shop compressor or quarter eater will fill a standard tube in a few seconds. So fast it will explode before they know what happened. You won't find that self admission in the Walmart reviews. Again the end result is the bike is a POS. Relatively new riders relegated to the city will also test that spiffy new "mountain" bike by running into a curb to watch that $13 suspension fork absorb the impact. Again, low tires & instant pinch flat. Any of these will result in the leading walmart reviews judging the the bike to be a POS.
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Post by fatdaddy61 on Nov 29, 2018 8:51:20 GMT -7
hadnt thought it thru that much but makes sense.
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Post by desertbikes on Dec 1, 2018 7:21:46 GMT -7
The rim strip is a common problem on all bikes, particularly lower end single wall rims where the strip is critical. People don't want to take off a new tire, especially when it comes somewhat inflated. It's also an opportunity to install a better/lighter tube, go to a thorn resistant if needed, or add your favorite liquid sealant gunk if you wish.
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Post by lurker on Dec 3, 2018 15:04:59 GMT -7
quite the conundrum. the people who are most likely to need post-purchase support are exactly the ones least likely or able to shop where they can get it.
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Post by desertbikes on Dec 3, 2018 19:17:55 GMT -7
There's no shortage of ways a consumer can educate themselves about a product. This is no different. We're really only talking about the simplest tasks to correct what are perceived by some customers, to be huge problems. For those that write reviews trashing a bike because they had a flat, I truly believe they are beyond help. The rest can find help on the many bike sites & videos on the web. At least videos posted by people that know what they're doing - like those found here- Basic Repair & Tools - Video & Text
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Post by gonefishin on Dec 4, 2018 9:02:41 GMT -7
whats a pinch flat?
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Post by lurker on Dec 4, 2018 14:14:44 GMT -7
tube gets pinched between rim and tire bead. easy puncture.
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Post by mari on Mar 10, 2019 9:34:41 GMT -7
Okay im reader. But i think for starters i will buy a used one. Already had a look around craigslist and this board, but i have not decided for a particular MTB just yet. Any advice on a bike is highly appreciated. Im a total noob when it comes to MTB ad i dont know if I will pursue it for a longer period of time.
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Post by Admin Czar on Mar 10, 2019 14:30:13 GMT -7
okay im ready Glad to hear it! Welcome mari!
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Post by lurker on Mar 10, 2019 15:46:04 GMT -7
:welcome: oops, that didn't work. oh, well that will have to do.
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Post by fatdaddy61 on Mar 11, 2019 18:39:37 GMT -7
okay im ready Welccome mari
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Post by desertbikes on Mar 13, 2019 22:58:41 GMT -7
See? Mari wasn't offended. He gets it. As much as I like budget bikes, the learning curve that goes with it is just too steep for some folks. Although there are thousands of bikes in garages out there with only 20 miles on them & a flat tire under them. You can be unbelievably lucky finding the right yard sale
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Post by lurker on Mar 14, 2019 4:16:23 GMT -7
it helps if you're not afraid to get your hands dirty.
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