Post by desertbikes on Jun 23, 2019 8:40:03 GMT -7
This is new stuff to me so anyone can feel free to jump in & correct me if I'm in error on a point.
Shimano has a patented system called Shimano Steps being marketed to bike manufactures (brands, actually) that houses the batteries in a removable key-locked module which is integrated to the downtube of a bike. The motor is part of the bottom bracket housing, which is actually a gearbox now.
There are four application levels that likely also reflect differences in how robust the components are, as well as drive gear ratios. Low to high they are, E5000, E6100, E7000 & E8000, with some overlap in the mid level E6100 & E7000 midrange components.Shimano classifies these levels as MTB, Treking & City.
At the upper end of their offerings, there's even "E-Tube" software & an app for your phone to fine tune the system based on riding conditions & rider preferences. There's a lot more to it & I still need to read all the manuals but it's pretty interesting stuff. Shimano has dumped a boat load of bucks in this system so I expect we'll be seeing a lot more of it in lower end bikes soon.
Post by desertbikes on Jun 23, 2019 16:52:41 GMT -7
Been poking around & found that Trek, Raleigh & Felt all have lines utilizing the Schimano Step E systems. Not for the faint of heart in the bank account. The least expensive Trek is $4000 Trickle down tech happens pretty fast in the bike world tho. I'd expect variations on the theme will arrive sooner rather than later.
desertbikes: Amen. Just about anything that runs a 2 stroke is available in 4 stroke these days. Sure can't beat 2 stroke where weight is a factor tho. My model plane engines were all 2 stroke ethanol diesels. Simple, yet when they wouldn't start we were baffled
Apr 19, 2021 10:11:31 GMT -7
tomcat65: 4 stroke engines, I do ok. Comfortable working on them, but 2 stroke engines.. I want to think, they've got to be simple, but noooooo..
Apr 19, 2021 7:22:46 GMT -7
desertbikes: Gotta drain that unleaded gas for winter. I have heard of these "lawn mower" devices of which you speak. Perhaps a memory fragment from childhood...
Apr 18, 2021 7:10:31 GMT -7
lurker: been struggling with the lawn mower. cleaned junk out of the gas tank and carburetor, cleaned the spark plug and it started right up on the 2nd pull. successful end to 2 days of frustration.
Apr 17, 2021 15:16:56 GMT -7
desertbikes: Yup just about everything has gone up at least 15-20% from March 2020. Some things less & others a bunch more. The old guy within says that if it's not fun, don't bother with it. Realistic? No. Just something to strive for.
Apr 14, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -7
tomcat65: The Witch Doctor sees the dust on the floor, and the fixtures still in boxes, and just rolls the eyes Building materials prices jumped up, and I'm way over budget. The fun just never ends
Apr 13, 2021 17:08:15 GMT -7
desertbikes: Hey the Catster was here & didn't even say hello or give us a bidet update. I'm thinking a foot pedal valve on the garden hose attached to the 5 gal bucket would please Ms Cat. Perhaps in more ways than one
Apr 13, 2021 9:17:55 GMT -7
desertbikes: That is such a 70s punk rock band name. Winning the 1977 Battle of the Bands at the Roxy, the Vicious Minnows! Then lead singer, Tuna Manifesto, pukes on stage. Ah, the good ol days
Apr 12, 2021 19:56:06 GMT -7
desertbikes: Eh. How about Lurking Minnow? Wait! Vicious Minnow
Apr 12, 2021 18:01:47 GMT -7
lurker: did i just see you suggest i name my boat "ss minnow"? i kinda like that.
Apr 12, 2021 11:31:45 GMT -7
desertbikes: Indeed. Those interminable task masters. I mean cats. of course.
Apr 12, 2021 6:46:16 GMT -7
lurker: been busy with honey-do's... hunting up a particular sort of cat food (there's a shortage, y'know). laying sod on bare patches of the yard. naps, many, many naps.
Apr 11, 2021 11:50:51 GMT -7
desertbikes: I wonder if the SS Lurker set sail today. He said he was just going on a three hour tour. A three hour tour... Cue the thunder clap!
Apr 11, 2021 7:53:48 GMT -7
tomcat65: About the bike brand thing. Kent also holds the Hyper brand, Genesis, Takara, Shogun, GMC, Jeep, and BCA - assembled in South Carolina. Pacific a Dorel Industries company Cannondale, Mongoose, Schwinn, IH, GT, Caloi. Lots of corporate/China shenanigans
Apr 2, 2021 22:47:49 GMT -7
lurker: and here tonight probably the last freeze of the season. high today, 49.
Apr 2, 2021 7:39:03 GMT -7
desertbikes: 100' yesterday. And so it begins
Apr 2, 2021 6:51:08 GMT -7
lurker: not down to 1 player yet. soon.
Mar 31, 2021 6:41:53 GMT -7
desertbikes: You're about 30 years too late my friend
Mar 31, 2021 6:11:14 GMT -7
lurker: not sure i like this consolidation trend, looks to me like the middle stages of a monopoly game.
Mar 30, 2021 20:36:13 GMT -7
desertbikes: Look deeper & you find around 6 holding companies own most of the outdoor & sports equipment brands you thought you knew as companies. Thompson Center, Winchester, S&W, Remington etc too And electronics & process instrumentation. Started heavy in the 80s
Mar 30, 2021 17:53:16 GMT -7