on my evil FB and thought it interesting. lady lurker has bad knees and i thought putting something like this on her regatta might help her get out more. i notice it doesn't include a battery, and there's just a slew of wires coming off that controller, and no mention of weight. but the price is reasonable. any ideas? good/bad idea?
Post by desertbikes on May 11, 2019 8:19:28 GMT -7
Yeah a couple things are worth mentioning here. First, it's not from Walmart. As I suggest several time elsewhere, always tick the retailer box & select Walmart only. Walmart marketplace sellers are not associated with Walmart and, whats worse, Walmart doesn't back you if there's a problem. Ebay & Amazon are far better for 3rd party sellers. Ebay is way better than they were only a few years ago but Amazon Prime (sold by Amazon, not a 3rd party) is the safest why to buy questionable chinese tech, which is what all hub motors are.
Hub motors are pretty cool. I'll get only someday. Nearly have several times. Most are all wire harnesses w/ numbered plugs so you're not splicing wires & trying to figure terminations. It's better when a battery is not included too. Li batts are used & lots of watt/volt combs are available for various sources. You can select based on the distance you want to ride (round trip) before a recharge is require which is also based on the watt usage of the motor at top speed.
Weight - the kits without a battery are usually around 20#. The more powerful the motor, the heavier it will be. Batteries are expensive but Li are so much lighter than old tech it's not so bad. you can add as much as 30-45 lbs depending on how much battery you want. I've seen guys running around 30mph on the street with hub motors & you can get even nuttier if you have the $$$. Weight-wise, it's kinda like riding a steel fat bike around if you run down the battery before you get home.
I would have had one by now if I lived in a city or town. I've looked a using a hub motor on a fat trike too just for hauling stuff around the property. In town I think they're really practical if you have the stones for sharing a road with cars - which I just don't anymore.
Post by fatdaddy61 on May 11, 2019 16:26:54 GMT -7
Theres a youtube of a guy riding dunes with one of them on a fat bike. Haulin ass to. I had one of those little motors that mounted to a bike rack with 2 ATV batteries. got it at a yard sale. Bike might go 6 or8 mph but it was great while it lasted specially if you mighta had a couple beers & wanted a smoke
Post by desertbikes on Jun 24, 2019 18:32:48 GMT -7
There are alternatives if you're will to do a little leg work & use Ohms law. I'm still doing research for a more detailed post about battery alternatives but learned quite a bit during my halogen light night riding phase.
i was at harbor freight today looking at solar panels for a non-bicycle application, and was interested to find that they recommend another couple of hundred in "hubs", charge controllers and batteries, at least as costly as the panels themselves. it would appear they only sell lead-acid 12 volt batteries. it looks like i'm going to have to climb the electricity learning curve.
Post by desertbikes on Jun 25, 2019 13:58:30 GMT -7
I've used harbor's charge controllers for auxiliary solar power batteries on well sites & also secondary batteries on trucks. Usually camper accessories or welders. Would not use them for Lithium Ion batts. That's a different animal. One of my bike alternatives is AGM & Gel-Cell, small form factor batteries. The deep cycle marine variety is the best. Worth reading up on for anyone interested. Li Ion are light but not the panacea some propaganda make them out to be. I've purchased from these guys & there's good info as well.
while i'm not convinced that these are quality items that will give long-term satisfaction, i see ads for these folks, whose products are at least affordable to us commoners. swagtron.com/#a_aid=5c07103642c36
Post by desertbikes on Jul 1, 2019 19:53:02 GMT -7
That one is a kids bike tho with 20" wheels. And its $700. It might be usable for adults if the seat post were replaced & maybe high BMX or ape hanger handle bars. Looks like an 1 1/8" stem extender might work too.
Post by desertbikes on Jul 6, 2019 10:53:58 GMT -7
Yikes! I had been driving about 12 years before I even paid that much for a car. A 1975 F-100 Explorer camper special Long bed, 302ci, auto trans, etc. A tricycle costing that much, even 30 years later, twists my sensibility in a knot. In fact I've been toying with the idea of making my first electric a trike. Would be very practical for me & weight & battery position become less of an issue. An easier way to negotiate the learning curve I think.
desertbikes: Amen. Just about anything that runs a 2 stroke is available in 4 stroke these days. Sure can't beat 2 stroke where weight is a factor tho. My model plane engines were all 2 stroke ethanol diesels. Simple, yet when they wouldn't start we were baffled
Apr 19, 2021 10:11:31 GMT -7
tomcat65: 4 stroke engines, I do ok. Comfortable working on them, but 2 stroke engines.. I want to think, they've got to be simple, but noooooo..
Apr 19, 2021 7:22:46 GMT -7
desertbikes: Gotta drain that unleaded gas for winter. I have heard of these "lawn mower" devices of which you speak. Perhaps a memory fragment from childhood...
Apr 18, 2021 7:10:31 GMT -7
lurker: been struggling with the lawn mower. cleaned junk out of the gas tank and carburetor, cleaned the spark plug and it started right up on the 2nd pull. successful end to 2 days of frustration.
Apr 17, 2021 15:16:56 GMT -7
desertbikes: Yup just about everything has gone up at least 15-20% from March 2020. Some things less & others a bunch more. The old guy within says that if it's not fun, don't bother with it. Realistic? No. Just something to strive for.
Apr 14, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -7
tomcat65: The Witch Doctor sees the dust on the floor, and the fixtures still in boxes, and just rolls the eyes Building materials prices jumped up, and I'm way over budget. The fun just never ends
Apr 13, 2021 17:08:15 GMT -7
desertbikes: Hey the Catster was here & didn't even say hello or give us a bidet update. I'm thinking a foot pedal valve on the garden hose attached to the 5 gal bucket would please Ms Cat. Perhaps in more ways than one
Apr 13, 2021 9:17:55 GMT -7
desertbikes: That is such a 70s punk rock band name. Winning the 1977 Battle of the Bands at the Roxy, the Vicious Minnows! Then lead singer, Tuna Manifesto, pukes on stage. Ah, the good ol days
Apr 12, 2021 19:56:06 GMT -7
desertbikes: Eh. How about Lurking Minnow? Wait! Vicious Minnow
Apr 12, 2021 18:01:47 GMT -7
lurker: did i just see you suggest i name my boat "ss minnow"? i kinda like that.
Apr 12, 2021 11:31:45 GMT -7
desertbikes: Indeed. Those interminable task masters. I mean cats. of course.
Apr 12, 2021 6:46:16 GMT -7
lurker: been busy with honey-do's... hunting up a particular sort of cat food (there's a shortage, y'know). laying sod on bare patches of the yard. naps, many, many naps.
Apr 11, 2021 11:50:51 GMT -7
desertbikes: I wonder if the SS Lurker set sail today. He said he was just going on a three hour tour. A three hour tour... Cue the thunder clap!
Apr 11, 2021 7:53:48 GMT -7
tomcat65: About the bike brand thing. Kent also holds the Hyper brand, Genesis, Takara, Shogun, GMC, Jeep, and BCA - assembled in South Carolina. Pacific a Dorel Industries company Cannondale, Mongoose, Schwinn, IH, GT, Caloi. Lots of corporate/China shenanigans
Apr 2, 2021 22:47:49 GMT -7
lurker: and here tonight probably the last freeze of the season. high today, 49.
Apr 2, 2021 7:39:03 GMT -7
desertbikes: 100' yesterday. And so it begins
Apr 2, 2021 6:51:08 GMT -7
lurker: not down to 1 player yet. soon.
Mar 31, 2021 6:41:53 GMT -7
desertbikes: You're about 30 years too late my friend
Mar 31, 2021 6:11:14 GMT -7
lurker: not sure i like this consolidation trend, looks to me like the middle stages of a monopoly game.
Mar 30, 2021 20:36:13 GMT -7
desertbikes: Look deeper & you find around 6 holding companies own most of the outdoor & sports equipment brands you thought you knew as companies. Thompson Center, Winchester, S&W, Remington etc too And electronics & process instrumentation. Started heavy in the 80s
Mar 30, 2021 17:53:16 GMT -7