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Post by desertbikes on Sept 12, 2018 7:54:01 GMT -7
Chinese carbon fiber goes mainstream with Walmart's Hyper CF bike. I'm tempted to get one for a first hand look at what its about. At $399 It still has a freewheel, not freehub, and low end shifting components although they are Shimano branded, including the thumb shifter\brake lever combo. If nothing else, it gives you a 3 lb frame to build a super-light bike. No doubt there will be reviews elsewhere from the elite crowd bashing this entry level CF bike after dutifully & deliberately beating the crap out of it till the frame breaks.
Post by desertbikes on Sept 13, 2018 17:56:37 GMT -7
Well, I ordered the darn thing. Gotta see for myself what it's about. Easy enough to return it if there are obvious problems out of the box. Should be interesting. Weird to market it this way. Hyper is usually on the low end of cheapest stuff. Go figure. Maybe it'll be like the bamboo schwinn "green" market experiment.
Last Edit: Sept 16, 2018 12:24:23 GMT -7 by desertbikes
Post by desertbikes on Sept 15, 2018 8:56:54 GMT -7
Well, mark me impressed. This is not a typical Walmart bike. Kinda like back in 2010 or so when the Mongoose XR-Pro came out. There were no other discount store bikes that compared. This is the same thing. Hyper has obviously found a Chinese manufacturer that can crank out a product of above average quality. Even the packaging is better than Pacific or Kent. From the heavy duty box, to frame & wheel protection, they've done a better job of getting the product to customer without damage.
BE AWARE - There is a warning on the box stating a 275lb weight limit. I'm surprised its that high & certainly wouldn't push my luck any higher.
Will post pics & bike details later. Will edit this post as info accumulates.
One of the better user manuals I've seen. Also includes separate Shimano drive train instructions & pamphlet from the disk brake mfg.
As it comes out of the box. Or on the autopsy table after a bus encounter.
Seat post is also carbon fiber. 31.8mm Saddle with post is 1 lb 6 oz. or 709gr. Uses a aftermarket style single bolt rail clamp.
Complete front wheel, tire, tube, rotor & all are only 5 lbs 9 oz
Bars are 31.8mm diameter aluminum with minimal rise & sweep. Just under 25" width. Think 630mm is a standard width.
Lock-on hand grips w/ dual allen head screws.
Stem is aluminum with a 4 bolt bar clamp & 2 opposing pinch bolts on the fork tube.
The fork is the biggest compromise in quality - a standard ZOOM branded boat anchor, although it works smoothly for a 225 lb guy with minimal sticktion.
Frame - 22" from stem center to seat post center. 30" stand-over height. I'd call it a medium frame, perhaps on the smallish side.
Tires are labeled "SNAFU" brand. They look like CST with aggressive side & mid knobs, sparse center knobs at 2.3" with inflation at 40-65 psi
i dont know much about CF bike but 28 pounds seens like a lot. more than i thought anyway
Yeah, I think there are a lot of misconceptions about carbon frames. In reality, a 26" MTB carbon frame may only be around a pound to pound & a half lighter than an aluminum frame. This bike is already 5-6 lbs lighter than most 26" bikes marketed as MTB. This has to do more with components than the frame.
Not sure how to determine that without a Dremel tool autopsy which aint happenin just yet. I'm sure asshats at the four-letter forum have already deliberately broken it for an "unbiased" self-serving review. As with all Wally bikes, there are stickers on it & warnings in the manual, stating it shouldn't be ridden off road or jumped. Right. We'll see how it does with a 225lb guy on XC trails & washes. Although, someone could easily drop 6-7 lbs by changing the tires, tubes & fork. Not that I've thought about that at all...
desertbikes: Yup just about everything has gone up at least 15-20% from March 2020. Some things less & others a bunch more. The old guy within says that if it's not fun, don't bother with it. Realistic? No. Just something to strive for.
Apr 14, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -7
tomcat65: The Witch Doctor sees the dust on the floor, and the fixtures still in boxes, and just rolls the eyes Building materials prices jumped up, and I'm way over budget. The fun just never ends
Apr 13, 2021 17:08:15 GMT -7
desertbikes: Hey the Catster was here & didn't even say hello or give us a bidet update. I'm thinking a foot pedal valve on the garden hose attached to the 5 gal bucket would please Ms Cat. Perhaps in more ways than one
Apr 13, 2021 9:17:55 GMT -7
desertbikes: That is such a 70s punk rock band name. Winning the 1977 Battle of the Bands at the Roxy, the Vicious Minnows! Then lead singer, Tuna Manifesto, pukes on stage. Ah, the good ol days
Apr 12, 2021 19:56:06 GMT -7
desertbikes: Eh. How about Lurking Minnow? Wait! Vicious Minnow
Apr 12, 2021 18:01:47 GMT -7
lurker: did i just see you suggest i name my boat "ss minnow"? i kinda like that.
Apr 12, 2021 11:31:45 GMT -7
desertbikes: Indeed. Those interminable task masters. I mean cats. of course.
Apr 12, 2021 6:46:16 GMT -7
lurker: been busy with honey-do's... hunting up a particular sort of cat food (there's a shortage, y'know). laying sod on bare patches of the yard. naps, many, many naps.
Apr 11, 2021 11:50:51 GMT -7
desertbikes: I wonder if the SS Lurker set sail today. He said he was just going on a three hour tour. A three hour tour... Cue the thunder clap!
Apr 11, 2021 7:53:48 GMT -7
tomcat65: About the bike brand thing. Kent also holds the Hyper brand, Genesis, Takara, Shogun, GMC, Jeep, and BCA - assembled in South Carolina. Pacific a Dorel Industries company Cannondale, Mongoose, Schwinn, IH, GT, Caloi. Lots of corporate/China shenanigans
Apr 2, 2021 22:47:49 GMT -7
lurker: and here tonight probably the last freeze of the season. high today, 49.
Apr 2, 2021 7:39:03 GMT -7
desertbikes: 100' yesterday. And so it begins
Apr 2, 2021 6:51:08 GMT -7
lurker: not down to 1 player yet. soon.
Mar 31, 2021 6:41:53 GMT -7
desertbikes: You're about 30 years too late my friend
Mar 31, 2021 6:11:14 GMT -7
lurker: not sure i like this consolidation trend, looks to me like the middle stages of a monopoly game.
Mar 30, 2021 20:36:13 GMT -7
desertbikes: Look deeper & you find around 6 holding companies own most of the outdoor & sports equipment brands you thought you knew as companies. Thompson Center, Winchester, S&W, Remington etc too And electronics & process instrumentation. Started heavy in the 80s
Mar 30, 2021 17:53:16 GMT -7
desertbikes: Yes, same factories too. So are Mongoose, Ironhorse & more. Pacific maintains the websites & trademarks/copyright for each. Kent makes Genesis & another I don't recall just now but they're not under Pacific. TC might have more current data.
Mar 30, 2021 17:37:59 GMT -7
lurker: yes, i took economics though it was never my thing. i have opinions about why this is happening but won't bore you all with them. i think i hear you saying that schwinn and huffy are under the same management?
Mar 30, 2021 11:48:11 GMT -7
desertbikes: It's a shame so much retail is nothing more than branding of US companies now long gone. Crosman, Benjamin, Winchester and all the Big Box bicycle brands, to name just a few, were once US manufacturers. Cheap imports rule the day. RIP Americana
Mar 30, 2021 8:46:22 GMT -7
desertbikes: Its a Huffy Nel Lesso with an uber low-end 7 speed instead of a single gear coaster break. Pacific Cycle makes both. Admittedly, some people will pay extra for the name branding. When does a ripoff become pure exploitation of unwary consumers?
Mar 30, 2021 8:23:53 GMT -7