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Post by desertbikes on Jan 13, 2019 20:58:54 GMT -7
I still have my early '80s chrome pump but it's rusted out.
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Post by lurker on Jan 13, 2019 21:50:10 GMT -7
i had one in plastic, don't remember what happened to it. the sunlite appears to have a flexible hose (which i prefer) and the cannondale looks like a direct attachment to the valve stem. looks to me that the direct attach might stress the stem. i dunno.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 14, 2019 18:06:37 GMT -7
Thanks again for that. Got 2 sunlite pumps & spare hose from ebay. It's identical to the one I bought 35 years ago, except for the mount. New one is plastic & old one was steel.
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Post by lurker on Jan 14, 2019 20:18:07 GMT -7
we're here to help each other (among other things). did they quit making these for a while? they seem to be marketed toward retro road bikes nowadays. i can see that the little tiny pumps would shave an ounce or two, can't imagine that off-roaders care about weight that much. what kind of pumps do they market to dirt riders?
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 15, 2019 10:30:59 GMT -7
I think the "cool" MTB guys use co2 inflators. There is an issue of space too. Maybe 2 water bottle boss locations (down tube/seat tube) but generally only one on the seat tube. You can still use the seat tube for a pump & water if the pump mount has an option for using those stiff rubber bands instead of screws. Mount the pump on the tire-side of the seat tube.
Hadn't thought about the weight aspect before but so many guys are uber weight weenies. I expect the gram-counters look at that as well. That 16" steel pump tube probably does weigh 2 or 3 as much as a shorty pump. We'll see when it gets here.
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Post by lurker on Jan 15, 2019 13:05:03 GMT -7
i assumed (there's that "ass" word) that off-roaders would be more interested in "is it strong enough?" than "is it light enough?", since we know it's going to be thrown about a bit. that, and people don't seem to bat an eye about a 35 lb mtn bike, which is a boat anchor in road bike terms. co2... i dunno, i guess it would be exceedingly rare to need more than 1 cylinder, so not much weight penalty there. but when you're out, you're out, pumps never run out of air. life is full of mysteries.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 19, 2019 11:49:53 GMT -7
Chromed Sunlite frame pump made in Tiawan, not China. A bonus point. Pump was coated with oil and sent boxed. Mounts are plastic but can use the metal frame mounts off the '80s pump.
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Post by lurker on Jan 19, 2019 13:13:26 GMT -7
nice! i prefer to buy from not-red-china, too. schraeder valve, i guess? weigh it, please! i'm hoping mine arrives monday, tracking says it got to charlotte, 45 miles down the road, last night at 1:35 am.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 19, 2019 18:16:38 GMT -7
Sunlite chrome pump = 221 grams. Schrader valve only Blackburn 2 stage mini pump (alum body) = 159 grams. Presta or Schrader can Ultra inflator/sealant = 205 grams. Schrader only
*(28.3 gr per oz)
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Post by lurker on Jan 19, 2019 18:53:40 GMT -7
the pumps arrived on the porch sometime in the last couple of hours. pics tomorrow, meanwhile words will have to do. sunlite: 214g, 16&1/4" long, chromed steel, schraeder only via 6&3/4" braided hose. cannondale: 130g, 13&5/8" long, white aluminum w/blk stripe, schraeder+presta via direct attach to valve stem. the cannondale seals up around the handle and at the valve, so maybe better for dusty environments. the cannondale is shorter and also skinnier, so i expect it will pump air more slowly than the sunlite. both come with plastic frame mounts, though i plan to use the steel lugs already welded on the peugeot frame. both made in taiwan. i plan to use the chromed steel pump on violet, and the white cannondale pump on the denali, which is also white. so sort of color-coordinated.
eta: i see our scales may not be in agreement.
eta: wtf? in the 70s when it was important to weigh things precisely, i memorized grams per ounce, because we'd buy things by the nominal ounce but weigh them on a metric triple beam scale. so i distinctly recall, 29.27 grams per ounce. now i look it up, prompted by our host's statement above and i see it's 28.349 g/o. did it change? when? that 29.27 is pretty deeply engraved in memory.
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Post by lurker on Jan 20, 2019 15:08:03 GMT -7
sunlite above, canondale below. with attaching "hardware", which will likely be discarded.
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Post by lurker on Jan 24, 2019 16:48:12 GMT -7
not bike-related, strictly speaking.
on the 10th of this month i ordered packages from 4 vendors, one of which was bikewagon who sent me the frame pumps shown above. took them a while to get the packages out, but only a week overall.
but one of the vendors, east coast photo of new jersey (camera stuff) has said nothing since i placed the order. so yesterday i sent them a polite email asking about the status of the order, and today, i get an e-mail from them, with tracking #, saying they shipped the package. today.
i doubt i'll be doing business with them in the future.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 24, 2019 21:22:21 GMT -7
eta: wtf? in the 70s when it was important to weigh things precisely, i memorized grams per ounce, because we'd buy things by the nominal ounce but weigh them on a metric triple beam scale. so i distinctly recall, 29.27 grams per ounce. now i look it up, prompted by our host's statement above and i see it's 28.349 g/o. did it change? when? that 29.27 is pretty deeply engraved in memory.
Man! I wish my connect had used your conversion. The bigger moral of the story is, stoners aren't good at math 8 grams per oz was seed back then anyway
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 24, 2019 21:29:09 GMT -7
Wait! I have it! You checked your triple beam & it weighed light by .8 grams so you offset it to be fair. Thats it...
I've always used 28 per. Ingrained in the brain too. Maybe it's the Mandela Effect...
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Post by lurker on Jan 25, 2019 4:55:26 GMT -7
i don't know. in memory it seems so clear. 29.27. 29.27. 29.27. but obviously i'm mistaken. this sort of thing frets me some, but.... what were we talking about?
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Post by Stoner on Jan 25, 2019 9:35:49 GMT -7
28.3 gr + the baggie = 29.27gr
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Post by lurker on Jan 25, 2019 11:16:43 GMT -7
it's been a long time. i don't remember.
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Post by lurker on Jan 27, 2019 7:35:48 GMT -7
so yesterday i determined to use what sunshine there is and go for a ride. probably a mile either way, just getting some fresh air and sunshine. talked with a guy walking his genesis, (too much beer) and as we stood there another guy in full spandex on a trek hooted at us as he went by. also talked with a guy sitting in the sunny corner of his yard catching rays. on the way home i noticed a geo metro* sitting in a backyard, decided to try for a better look, and there under the carport were a 70s citroen DS(french) and a 60s sunbeam alpine(british). apparently a fan of older foreign cars. i'll go back at some point and try for a closer look. bicycles get you out into your community, on a human level. you see things. * the metro, a rebadged suzuki swift, initially caught my eye because i've had a couple and like them. very fuel efficient, very reliable, very easy to work on.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 27, 2019 12:28:32 GMT -7
A Citroen. I saw a Citroen SM at a car show in '74 & was amazed. It was the car of the future. At the time I was driving a '57 Chevy 2 door hardtop. I've nostalgically looked at both models again in the past year. Ironically the price is about the same for either in good condition.
But your predilection for humans eludes me.
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Post by lurker on Jan 27, 2019 13:01:32 GMT -7
oddly enough, i used to be, not antisocial, but asocial. had no time for other people. pretty sure i could have happily lived the hermit's life out in the middle of nowhere. but the last maybe 10, 15 years i've become more outgoing. some of it is not caring that much what people think of me. i don't know, may end up in the nowhere anyway. with a dog, i'll want a dog. been thinking of buying a couple of acres to camp on, maybe with a tumbledown shack.
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Post by lurker on Jan 27, 2019 13:05:03 GMT -7
"car of the future". that's what i thought of the AMC Pacer. fishbowl car.
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Post by desertbikes on Jan 27, 2019 17:19:44 GMT -7
Somebody in our group dubbed it the "lunar excursion vehicle"
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Post by genericmember on Jan 29, 2019 14:38:23 GMT -7
* the metro, a rebadged suzuki swift, initially caught my eye because i've had a couple and like them. very fuel efficient, very reliable, very easy to work on.
I had a Chevy Sprint for a while. I could push start it by myself in about ten feet! I'd always try to park downhill just to be safe.
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Post by lurker on Jan 29, 2019 15:08:08 GMT -7
9 hundred and some cubic centimeters of blazing POWER!
heh.
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Post by fatdaddy61 on Jan 29, 2019 20:17:40 GMT -7
Toy cars. I got hot wheels bigger than those things
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